I want Sam to be a grown up and take full responsibility for his actions, not so much the whole Lucifer thing, but how really shabbily he treated Dean this year. I think it would show tremendous growth if he did some serious self-reflection about how he views Dean and whether or not he really understand who his brother is. *nods* One of the saddest things about this year was seeing the brothers coming so, so close to breaking out of that rut they are in, only to fall right back into it again. I got so hopeful mid-season when for the very first time we saw Sam being the one to compromise, when he sat down and told Dean what he did last summer (but alas only the abridged version, only we didn't know it at the time) and that gave Dean the confidence he needed to open up in turn about hell, which Sam had been pestering him about for a few episodes. That confession was the greatest measure of trust Dean had ever placed in Sam...and Sam bottled it, essentially. And that disappoints me so much, for Sam's sake. It was what he had wanted and worked toward for years, getting Dean to trust him enough with the very worst of his pain, and he was so sure he would be strong enough to help carry the load, but then when it came to the crunch he just couldn't do it. He tried, for a little while...but it was just so much easier to sidetrack himself with thoughts of revenge than to give Dean what he actually needed, which was emotional support so that he could heal.
Ah, boys. It'll be interesting to see where they go from here.
Usually I think Kripke does some of the best characterization on the show but I think that scene was quite badly written and directed. Yes. It's hard to recap, because I can see what he was trying to do, and can rationalise Bobby's state of mind not lending itself to tact, and he's no psychotherapist at the best of times, but...the way the scene plays feels as if we are supposed to agree with Bobby that Dean is being a whiny little princess wallowing in unjustified self-pity, but he really, really isn't. The brother he died and went to hell for just tried to kill him, that coming on top of years and years of accumulated trauma. If anyone was ever justified in having a complete emotional breakdown, it is Dean - it is frankly a miracle he's as functional as he is.
Meh. Yeah, Dean's post-hell storyline was a big disappointment, on the whole, and I'm always going to regret that because there was so much potential there - and honestly, what is the point of doing such an awful thing to your character if you aren't going to follow through on it? But ah well, what's done is done I suppose, alas.
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Date: 2009-08-26 02:37 pm (UTC)*nods* One of the saddest things about this year was seeing the brothers coming so, so close to breaking out of that rut they are in, only to fall right back into it again. I got so hopeful mid-season when for the very first time we saw Sam being the one to compromise, when he sat down and told Dean what he did last summer (but alas only the abridged version, only we didn't know it at the time) and that gave Dean the confidence he needed to open up in turn about hell, which Sam had been pestering him about for a few episodes. That confession was the greatest measure of trust Dean had ever placed in Sam...and Sam bottled it, essentially. And that disappoints me so much, for Sam's sake. It was what he had wanted and worked toward for years, getting Dean to trust him enough with the very worst of his pain, and he was so sure he would be strong enough to help carry the load, but then when it came to the crunch he just couldn't do it. He tried, for a little while...but it was just so much easier to sidetrack himself with thoughts of revenge than to give Dean what he actually needed, which was emotional support so that he could heal.
Ah, boys. It'll be interesting to see where they go from here.
Usually I think Kripke does some of the best characterization on the show but I think that scene was quite badly written and directed.
Yes. It's hard to recap, because I can see what he was trying to do, and can rationalise Bobby's state of mind not lending itself to tact, and he's no psychotherapist at the best of times, but...the way the scene plays feels as if we are supposed to agree with Bobby that Dean is being a whiny little princess wallowing in unjustified self-pity, but he really, really isn't. The brother he died and went to hell for just tried to kill him, that coming on top of years and years of accumulated trauma. If anyone was ever justified in having a complete emotional breakdown, it is Dean - it is frankly a miracle he's as functional as he is.
Meh. Yeah, Dean's post-hell storyline was a big disappointment, on the whole, and I'm always going to regret that because there was so much potential there - and honestly, what is the point of doing such an awful thing to your character if you aren't going to follow through on it? But ah well, what's done is done I suppose, alas.